Maćica Serbska bě přeprosyła w januarje 2022 na zjawnu diskusiju wo serbskej hymnje. Witane běchu přinoški do Serbskich Nowin runje tak kaž dopisy na Maćicu Serbsku (tež w formje mejlki na macica.serbska@web.de). W septembrje 2022 wotmě so diskusijny wječork w Serbskim domje w Budyšinje (zhromadnje ze Serbskimi Nowinami).
Na hłownej zhromadźiznje Maćicy Serbskeje dnja 18. měrca 2023 schwali so doporučenje za hornjoserbski tekst serbskeje hymny. Štóž chce w serbskej hymnje žony wědomje zapřijeć, móže wariantu wužiwać, kotraž hodźi so paralelnje a runočasnje bjez wulkich mylenjow k dotalnemu tekstej hymny spěwać: Časo přichodny, / zakćěj radostny! / Ow, njech wuńdu z twojeho / klina žony, mužojo, / hódni wěčnoh wopomnjeća!
Z tutym doporučenjom da towarstwo jasny signal do serbskeje zjawnosće, zo spomóžne skutkowanje žonow na narodnym polu widźi, wita a podpěra. Z tym zakónči Maćica Serbska zjawnu diskusiju wo serbskej hymnje, kotruž bě předsydstwo w januarje 2022 zahajiło.
Reakcije Namołwa k diskusiji wo serbskej hymnje je dotal wulku rezonancu namakała. Tójšto ludźi je so k tomu wuprajiło: w nowinach a socialnych medijach abo direktnje na Maćicu Serbsku. Chcemy na tutym městnje prěnje reakcije zjimać a z tym podać hruby přehlad wo stawje diskusije. Cyłkownu diskusiju móžeće nimo toho w tutej PDFce čitać.
Wuprajenja (wuběr, z připisow na Maćicu kaž tež z naprašowanja na mdr)
„Sym za to. Namjetowana warianta tež derje klinči.“
„Tuta iniciatiwa předsydstwa Maćicy nas w swójbje chětro rozhorja, haj hněw wubudźuje.“
„Podpěruju jara namjet, změnić naspomnjenu štučku našeho narodneho spěwa.“
„Mi so namjetowana změna hymny jara lubi – je jednora a hodźi so derje nawuknyć, je minimalna, a tola zapřija žony.“
„Ich finde es gut, sich Gedanken zu machen über die Anpassung der sorbischen Hymne. Besonders im Hinblick auf die zeitgemäße Entwicklung der Sprache. Wir dürfen nicht vergessen in welcher Zeit der Text geschrieben wurde. Zu damaliger Zeit war er modern und es gab auch keinen Anlass zur Debatte. Heute haben wir die Gelegenheit, den Text anzupassen, sodass er in unsere aktuelle Zeit passt. Ich bin mir sicher, dass ein Großteil der „älteren Generation der Sorben“ einer derartigen Änderung skeptisch und höchstwahrscheinlich auch ablehnend entgegentreten wird. Ich persönlich finde es grundlegend okay, wie in eurem Beispiel, ebenfalls die Frauen zu erwähnen. Jedoch finde ich, ist damit der Herausforderung an euren Aufruf nicht genüge getan. Natürlich können wir das weibliche Geschlecht mit erwähnen bzw. gleichstellen, aber somit erreichen wir nicht alle. Was ist mit denen, die sich keinem der beiden Geschlechter zugehörig fühlen? Würden wir sie mit dieser Lösung ausgrenzen oder benachteiligen?“
„Haj, ale jako žona njejsym so najebać teksta ženi wuzamknjena čuwa, skerje mužnje sylna!“
„Zona je runje hódna muzej, tez w Serbach! Cuju so pri originalu njenarěčana!“
„Jenož derje, zo nimamy w Serbach žane druhe starosće. Kajki smy tola zbožowny lud!“
„W lěće 2022 je hižo dawno na času to změnić! njech su wšitcy Serbja/Serbowki zastupjeni.“
„To móžeš wjesoły być, zo jednu štučku hromadźe dóstanu.“
„Štó da chce to přesadźić? Ći, kotřiž to rozsudźa wěsći njewědźa kak husto so hymna spěwa.6
„Awstralska je k 01.01.2022 tež swoju hymnu změniła, k česćowanju stawizny Aborigines.“
„Hory módry je ta lěpša hymna.“
„Haj, ale wosebje inkluziwnje přiwšěm njeje. Dawa wjace hač dwaj splahaj ...“
„Čehodla dyrbi so tuta starosławna hymna překomponować? Z njej je Serbski lud ćežke časy přetrawa.“
„dała wjace hač dwaj splahaj. wšitke mjenować pak je ćežko. trjebamy cyle nowy tekst.“
„Wenn ihr statt „Männer“ „Menschen“ setzt, würdet ihr euch die nächste (divers) Diskussion doch geschickt sparen.“
„witam Wašu iniciatiwu a angažement Maćicy Serbskeje a namjetuju město mužojo wosoby abo ludźo“
„Zasadnje witam diskusiju wo tym, wšako sej my - žónske - při spěwanju hymny tež přeco zaso chcyjo nochcyjo (smějkatajo) wuwědomimy, kak jara je so čas a z nim wid na ‚wótčincow‘ mjez napisanjom hymny a přitomnosću změnił… Sym za to, zo wobsteji móžnosć, mjez tradicionelnym kaž tež nowym, změnjenym tekstom při spěwanju hymny wolić móc.“
„Sym zwjeselena a zdobom dźakowna, zo sće zmužiće ideju snadneje, ale tola w našej dobje trěbneje změny serbskeje narodneje hymny do diskusije stajili. Po dlěšim rozmyslowanju a sćěhujo dotalne přinoški w Serbskich Nowinach přihłosuju Wašemu namjetej posłownje. Naša dźensniša towaršnostna realita žada runjewon za tajkej změnu. Łahodne, ale tola skutkowne zasahnjenje do tuteje wurjadneje literarneje twórby po nimale dwaj lětstotkach jeje nastaća mam za legitimne.“
„wenn der Text der Hymne geändert werden soll, wäre es doch am einfachsten ‚Männer‘ durch ‚Menschen‘ zu ersetzen. Das wäre der geringste Aufwand und würde dem Text den geringsten Abbruch tun“
Serbski rozhłós je hnydom 26.1.2022 na swojej Instagram-stronje wothłosowanje startowała a so prašała, štó je za změnu hymny. Na tym wobdźěli so 200 ludźi. Wot nich wupraji so 40% za změnu, 60% bě přećiwo tomu.
Wozjewjenja w serbskorěčnych nowinach, nowinske zdźělenki
Informacija wo namołwje MS w Serbskich Nowinach (25.1.2022)
Komentar k našej namołwje w Serbskich Nowinach (25.1.2022)
Rozmyslowanje w Serbskich Nowinach (28.1.2022)
Domowina – nowinska zdźělenka po wuradźowanja Zwjazkoweho předsydstwa (31.1.2022)
Informacija wo namołwje MS w Nowym Casniku (3.2.2022, nr. 5, str. 2)
Wo namołwje w Rozhledźe (awtorka: Anja Pohončowa) (Rozhlad 2022, čo. 2, str. 5)
Wobšěrniše předstajenje namołwy (z interviewom předsydki MS) w Serbskich Nowinach (3.2.2022)
dopis w Serbskich Nowinach (7.2.2022)
Domowina - nowinska zdźělenka wo zetkanje zastupjerjow Maćicy a Domowiny (10.2.2022)
dopis w Serbskich Nowinach (9.2.2022)
dopis w Serbskich Nowinach (16.2.2022)
dopis w Serbskich Nowinach (17.2.2022)
dopis w Serbskich Nowinach (4.3.2022)
dopis w Serbskich Nowinach (23.3.2022)
rozprawa w Nowym Casniku wo diskusijnym wječoru (NC 17.3.2022)
komentar "Što nětko ze serbskej hymnu" (awtor: Lukáš Novosad, Rozhlad 2022, čo. 5, str. 5)
"Serbska narodna hymna. Jeje nastaće a jeje změny" (awtor: Franc Šěn, Rozhlad 2022, čo. 5, str. 6-14)
Socialne medije Tež w socialnych medijach so wo namołwje diskutuje. Pohladajaće prošu:
namjet 3: Časo přichodny, / zakćěj radostny! / Ow, zo z klina twojeho / wuńdu žony, mužojo, / hódni wěčnoh wopomnjeća! || z připisa: "To “Njech nam ... ” wuměnić přez “Ow, zo ... ”. – Tole mam za bóle blisko originalej a za bóle swjatočne. Namjetuju tuž, tež tutu wariantu “Ow, zo” diskutować. To “Njech nam” so zawěsće hodźi, ale je bóle bliske tam a sem so jewjacemu serbskemu duktusej “chcemy, dyrbimy, trjebamy, žadamy”, štož je mi druhdy kusk pře wjele skorženja."
namjet 4: Časo přichodny, / zakćěješ nam ty? / Njech nam z klina twojeho wuńdu žony, mužojo, / hódni wěčnoh wopomnjenja! || z připisa: "mam slědowacy namjet - wužiwajo rady a z česćownosću "stary" namjet [...] Antona [Nawki].
namjet 5: Časo přichodny, / zakćěj radostny! / Ow, zo bychu z twojeho / klina wušličłójkojo, / hódni wěčnoh wopomnjeća! || z připisa: "Čehodla nic tak kaž žno to dawno spěwam? […] Wšitcy su zapřijeći a njej wulka změna."
namjet 6: Časo přichodny, / zakćěj radostny! / Ow, zo z klina twojeho / wuńdu dźowki, synojo, / hódni wěčnoh´ wopomnjeća. || z připisa: "Z tym, zo město „žony, mužojo“ „dźowki, synojo“ wužiwamy, wobhladuje so „Łužica“ jako mać a tak mjenowana „genderowa“ problematika so tak direktnje do srjedźišća njestaji, wšako so kóždy pak jako „syn“, pak jako „dźowka“ čuje, něšto mjez tym tak rjec (we słowach) njedawa"
namjet 7:Časo přichodny, / zakćěj radostny! / Ow, zo z klina twojeho / wuńdu Serbow budźerjo, / hódni wěčnoh´ wopomnjeća.
Delnjoserbski přełožk (inkl. wužiwana změna): Cas ty pśichodny, / zakwiś radostny! / Och, gab muže/luźe stanuli, / za swój narod źěłali, / gódne nimjer wobspomnjeśa.
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Domowina – Zwězk Łužyskich Serbow | Zwjazk Łužiskich Serbow | Bund Lausitzer Sorben e. V. Serbski dom | Haus der Sorben Póstowe naměsto | Postplatz 2 02625 Budyšin | Bautzen Germany
Register of Associations: VerR 30317 Registered Court: Dresden Local Court
Bank details: Deutsche Bank AG IBAN DE42 8 707 0000 0612 3269 00 BIC DEUTDE8CXXX
Tax number: 204/140/0277 (The association is recognised as a non-profit organisation and is exempt from corporation tax.)
Representation
Represented by Judit Šołćina Chief Executive (authorised to represent the association in accordance with its statutes)
Responsible for editorial content in accordance with Section 18 (2) of the German State Media Treaty (MStV): Božena Šimanec | Schiemann Press Officer
Domowina is the provider of the domain www.domowina.de and is responsible for the central content of the main website as well as for the technical structure of the website. Responsibility for the content (in particular texts, images, media, downloads, and external links) of the respective subpages within the multisite structure lies with the respective member organisations and regional associations.
The following organisations are responsible for the content of their respective subpages:
Maćica Serbska e. V.: dr Anja Pohončowa | Pohontsch, Chairwoman
Serbski Sokoł e. V.: Jan Hrjehor | Rehor, Chairman
Society for the Promotion of a Sorbian Cultural and Information Centre in Berlin – SKI e. V.: Cyril Pjech | Cyrill Pech, Chairman
Association for the Promotion of Sorbian Folk Culture e. V.: Franciska Grajcarekowa | Franziska Grajcarek, Chairwoman
Association of Sorbian Craftspeople and Entrepreneurs e. V.: Mónika Cyžowa | Monika Ziesch, Chairwoman
Association of Sorbian Choir e. V.: Pětr Cyž | Peter Ziesch, Chairman
Sorbian Artists’ Association e. V.: Jan Bělk | Bilk, Chairman
Association of Sorbian Students: Matej Mark, Chairman
Liability for Content The contents of this website have been created with the greatest possible care. However, Domowina – Zwězk Łužyskich Serbow | Zwjazk Łužiskich Serbow | Bund Lausitzer Sorben e. V. accepts no liability for the accuracy, completeness or timeliness of the information provided. We reserve the right to amend, supplement or delete content at any time.
Liability for Links This website contains links to external third-party websites over whose content we have no control. We therefore accept no liability for such external content. The respective operators of the linked sites are solely responsible for their content. At the time the links were created, no unlawful content was identifiable.
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Official announcements and press releases issued by Domowina may be used provided the source is acknowledged. The regional and member associations of Domowina are solely responsible for the content of their respective websites.
Consumer Dispute Resolution / Universal Arbitration Board We are neither willing nor obliged to participate in dispute resolution proceedings before a consumer arbitration board.
Data Protection Information on data protection can be found in our Privacy Policy.
Funded by
The Domowina – Federation of Lusatian Sorbs is institutionally funded by the Foundation for the Sorbian People, which receives annual grants from public funds on the basis of the approved budgets of the German Bundestag, the Brandenburg State Parliament, and the Saxon State Parliament. www.stiftung.sorben.com
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